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Vitamin B12 and Vitamin B1 Print E-mail
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Tuesday, 01 April 2008

Two B Vitamins That can be Crucial to your Goat's Health
Vitamin B12 [Cyanocobalamin or Cobalt] and Vitamin B1 [Thiamine]
Why they are So Important to the goat's Health. B vitamins, especially B 12 for an anemic goat, and Thiamine for carbohydrate metabolism, both can jump start the rumen function and get a goat eating again.

Vitamin B12 [Cyanocobalamin or Cobalt] and Vitamin B1 [Thiamine]- Healthy ruminants (goats in particular) manufacture the B vitamins in the body every day- What is not utilized by the body, is excreted in the urine. When a rumen gets slow and the goat is off feed, the manufacturing of these vital B vitamins is halted. The two most important B vitamins to a goat who is ill are B1 (Thiamine) and B12 (Cyanocobalamin or Cobalt) . Both of these vitamins in their single form are by veterinary prescription only BUT they both can be bought over the counter when added to the other B vitamins- Use Vitamin B Complex PLUS for B12 replacement Use Fortified B Complex for B1 (Thiamine) replacement

What to do when you have No access to vet prescribed thiamine or B12?

FORTIFIED VITAMIN B COMPLEX

{An OTC alternative for Rx Thiamine Hydrochloride (B1)}
Fortified B Vitamin complex contains 100mgs/ml of B1 (Thiamine)
For thiamine deficiency [B1](goat polio) you CAN get away with using Over the Counter The Standard dosage rate for FORTIFIED VITAMIN B COMPLEX is:(4-1/2mls (or cc's) per 100 pounds liveweight (Or if you Have Rx Thiamine Hydrochloride from your vet, this same dosage for the 100 mg/ml thiamine) NOTE: Rx Thiamine comes in different strengths: 100mgs/ml- 200mgs/ml and 500mgs/ml so dose accordingly if using Rx Thiamine Hydrochloride (B1) -

B-COMPLEX-PLUS

{An OTC alternative for Rx Vitamin B12 - 'cyanocobalamin or cobalt'} has 1000 mcg Cyanocobalamin (B12) per ml which equals 1mg per ml (or cc) and standard dosage is considered to be 4ccs of this per 100lbs of liveweight NOTE: Rx Cyanocobalamin (B12) also comes in different strengths: ie- 1000mcg/ml - 3000mcgs/ml and 5000mcg/ml - the data safety sheet for this medication currently states dosage information: Vitamin B12 Injection 1000 mcg/mL | Dosage And Administration Inject subcutaneously or intramuscularly.
Cattle and Horses-1 to 2 mL
Dogs and Cats-0.25 to 0.5 mL
It currently does not have a dosage per weight and have manufacturer research pending on this information [Sept 3 2014]
This being said, I have used this 1000mcg/ml Rx Cyanocobalamin (B12) at the rate of 2ccs/100 lbs liveweight successfully myself. But please refer to your own veterinarian for further dosing infomation!

I have regular Vitamin B Complex, Can I use that?

IMPORTANT INFO ON REGULAR B COMPLEX BELOW! READ THIS

Some Important information on Regular Vit B complex for treating either goat polio or listeriosis with Regular B complex. Regular B complex only has 12.5mgs/ml thiamine {you would need to use 16mls (or cc's) of this Regular Vitamin B complex to get enough thiamine (to help a goat suffering from goat polio) Per Injection and Regular Vitamin B Complex provides 5mcg/ml of Vitamin B12. This equals .005mg/ml. The most common Prescription strength B12 injection contains 1000mcg/ml (or 200 times the strength of regular Vit B Complex). In order to try and achieve the same recommended dosage of 2ml (2cc's) per animal at 1mg/ml (using the 1000mcg/ml strength Rx Cyanocobalamin B12), it would require 400ml(cc's) of Regular Vitamin B Complex.
Short Answer? NO it will not help your goat to use Regular Vitamin B complex to over come either goat Polio or Anemia due to severe wormload
B-COMPLEX-PLUS


B-COMPLEX-PLUS AgriLabs Injection For Animal Use Only Keep Out of Reach of Children
COMPOSITION: Each mL of sterile aqueous solution contains: Thiamine Hydrochloride (B1) 12.5 mg
Niacinamide 12.5 mg
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (B6) 5.0 mg
d-Panthenol 5.0 mg
Riboflavin (B2) (as Riboflavin 5' phosphate sodium)
2.0 mg Cyanocobalamin (B12)1000 mcg (1000 mcg = 1 mg)
with Benzyl Alcohol 1.5% v/v as a preservative, Ammonium Sulfate, 0.1%. INDICATIONS: For use as a supplemental source of B complex vitamins in cattle, swine and sheep. FORTIFIED VITAMIN B COMPLEX

FORTIFIED VITAMIN B COMPLEX AgriLabs Injection For Animal Use Only Keep Out of Reach of Children COMPOSITON: Each mL of sterile aqueous solution contains:
Thiamine Hydrochloride (B1) 100 mg Riboflavin (B2) (as Riboflavin 5'-Phosphate Sodium) 5 mg
Niacinamide 100 mg
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (B6) 10 mg d-Panthenol 10 mg
Cyanocobalamin (B12)100 mcg (100 mcg = 0.1 mg)
With Citric Acid and Benzyl Alcohol 1.5% v/v (preservative). INDICATIONS: For use as a supplemental source of B complex vitamins in cattle, swine and sheep. PRECAUTIONS: Allergic-type reactions following the injection of products containing thiamine have been reported. Administer with caution and keep treated animals under close observation. DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION: Inject intra-muscularly. May be administered subcutaneously or intravenously if recommended by your veterinarian. The following are suggested dosages, depending on the condition of the animal and the desired response. Adult Cattle- 1 to 2 mL per 100 pounds of body weight. Calves, Swine and Sheep- 5 mL per 100 pounds of body weight. May be repeated daily, if indicated.

Vitamin B12: Cyanocobalamin [or] Cobalt:


When a goat stops eating - it stops producing the necessary B vitamins in the rumen. When a goat get sick, the first thing it will do is go off their feed and usually a day later go off fluids (water) this will start to shut the rumen down- the goat will stop producing the needed B vitamins. This alone can become fatal to adult goats and kids as well. Kids under the age of 3 months especially- do not have a fully functional rumens.
Young kids under 2 months of age have little immunity to most diseases as their own immune system is not fully functional. Vitamin B 12 is especially essential for goats who are suffering from anemia due to worm overload.
A product for horses called Vita B-12 Crumbles added to the feed can also be used AFTER the initial dose of injectable Vitamin B12. I would also inject the B12 weekly after the first week of daily injections.
Prescription Vitamin B12 is a red liquid injectable vitamin that replaces the (Cyanocobalamin) cobalt missing from the ill goat's vitamin production system. Goats produce their own cobalt (B12) and when they are sick and off feed (not eating), they stop producing it. Sometimes a goat will need added cobalt (B12) to the diet daily for a long period of time. B12 helps to reconstruct red blood cells missing in anemic goats. For goats who will need a long term additional B12 therapy, it may be of help to give weekly injections after the first week of daily injections and during the period of weekly injections of B12 - added oral supplements such as Swine vitamin premix supplements that are used to top dress feed or a supplement called ShowBloom.

Vitamin B1: Thiamine:


A lack of thiamine in the goat's system can be devastating and may become fatal. Again, goats produce their own thiamine but when the feed intake is compromised by too much in the way of carbohydrates, which changes the pH in the rumen and kills the micro-organisms crucial to digestion, which in turn breaks down the thiamine produced in the rumen causing basically thiamine deficiency. When this happens, the result can be swelling in the brain, temporary blindness, in coordination and staggering- this is commonly called Goat Polio (Polioencephalomalacia) and not treated promptly can result in death. This can happen when a goat breaks into the feed bin and overloads on grain or sweet feed. Should you see one of your goats acting this way and find ti has over eaten sweet feed, corn or other concentrated feeds- an injection of thiamine will usually show drastic improvement within an hour if caught early.
I use 4ccs of 200mg/ml thiamine per 100lbs goat weight - so if you are using Fortified Vitamin B complex - it has 100mgs/ml you will need 8 mls (or ccs) for a 100lb goat.

NOTE: Goat Polio and listeriosis have almost the same beginning symptoms, if a goat owner administers Thiamine to the staggering goat- and the goat responds by becoming normal, then this goat was suffering from lack of thiamine (goat polio ) and not listeriosis. If the goat after a second injection- given 2 hours after the first still does not respond - then suspect Listeriosis and begin treatment accordingly. Success with both of these goat adversities is quick response notice and to administering the needed medications.

Last Updated ( Thursday, 04 September 2014 )
 
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